I think 8 is very good. I think with everyone there are ways to improve. I rarely give n e one a 10. I am not unhappy with Winters. I would recommend them. If I was unhappy with them I would not... I think 8 is very good. I think with everyone there are ways to improve. I rarely give n e one a 10. I am not unhappy with Winters. I would recommend them. If I was unhappy with them I would not have stayed with them all these years. 👍